Welcome James, can't wait to hear the stories you have to tell. Don't be shy, tell all!
Big Dog
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Hello to all, and thanks for your kindness...
by james_woods injames here; exjw for about 25 years.
was "in" from 1963 to 1980 due to parental "guidance" beyond my own good sense.. have been to elder school, bethel, wthq, etc..., knew many of franz heretics in the mid-late 70 trouble from oklahoma city.. have many silly stories to offer...but for now just will say this - .
if your "god" was really going to come down here and kill everybody on earth except for the wt people who the society liked, would you not stand up to fly the first fighter jet against such a horrible alien?.
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Im new
by g_cuddles in.
is there anyone here who actually support jws or is everyone disassociated?.
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Big Dog
Welcome to the forum! There are some that are still active and pro organization here, their names escape me at the moment but I'm sure someone else can supply them for you.
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Do Any Atheists Feel This Way?
by Big Dog inthe atheists have done a pretty good job on me, i am just about to cast my lot in with them after all the reading and debating on the issue.
they just seem to have all the answers and appear to hold the intellectual high ground, they do a good job of making one feel like a complete idiot for believing in a god, much less the christian version.
so now that i am almost free of this delusional, magical thinking, religious burden of foolishly believing in a god and that there is anymore to life than what is right here how do i feel?
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Also, just wanted to say thanks to everyone else that responded, KLS, Kid-A Robert, Doof, Dave, Dez, SNG, Auld, Seeker, Kiddotan, Dan, Dazz, Mysterious, and of course Tetragod, your imput was well taken and accepted in the spirit given, thanks again!
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Do Any Atheists Feel This Way?
by Big Dog inthe atheists have done a pretty good job on me, i am just about to cast my lot in with them after all the reading and debating on the issue.
they just seem to have all the answers and appear to hold the intellectual high ground, they do a good job of making one feel like a complete idiot for believing in a god, much less the christian version.
so now that i am almost free of this delusional, magical thinking, religious burden of foolishly believing in a god and that there is anymore to life than what is right here how do i feel?
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Thanks Doog, that was very cool, mucho appreciated.
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Do Any Atheists Feel This Way?
by Big Dog inthe atheists have done a pretty good job on me, i am just about to cast my lot in with them after all the reading and debating on the issue.
they just seem to have all the answers and appear to hold the intellectual high ground, they do a good job of making one feel like a complete idiot for believing in a god, much less the christian version.
so now that i am almost free of this delusional, magical thinking, religious burden of foolishly believing in a god and that there is anymore to life than what is right here how do i feel?
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I hear what you guys are saying but for the moment it is affecting me the opposite way. I remember a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon where Calvin asks his imaginary tiger friend Hobbes why he thought we were here and Hobbes replies, to devour each other alive. I guess that's how I see it for the moment, if we are not special, no spark of the divine, we are nothing but another species of animal struggling to survive and not be devoured.
I guess its a half full, half empty thing for me right now, and unfortunately I am seeing it as half empty at this point. As Mysterious pointed out that could and hopefully will change over time as I come to grips with it, but for me, all this talk of the wonderful meaning of life sounds a lot like the bible toters spiel, only without the payoff, its like a circular thing, yes life actually has no meaning other than to survive and act out our genetic codes, but we give it meaning, therefore it has meaning and so on. I think this is going to take awhile.
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You can't help but look at a judge's track record when it comes to appointments. Fair? What the heck is fair, its all about pushing whatever agenda you have.
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Hi! I'm new here!
by watch the tower inhi i've been checking out this board for a while.
i've finally mustered up the guts to post.
you guys have really helped me to open my eyes.
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Big Dog
Welcome to the board! Your's is an often asked question, wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall at Bethel?
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Do Any Atheists Feel This Way?
by Big Dog inthe atheists have done a pretty good job on me, i am just about to cast my lot in with them after all the reading and debating on the issue.
they just seem to have all the answers and appear to hold the intellectual high ground, they do a good job of making one feel like a complete idiot for believing in a god, much less the christian version.
so now that i am almost free of this delusional, magical thinking, religious burden of foolishly believing in a god and that there is anymore to life than what is right here how do i feel?
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Darth,
Don't worry, I took it as you were very astute and picked up on the fact that there was something going on besides just wrestling with the concept of no god.
I'm very sorry to hear about your situation, of all the things we have to deal with in this life, nothing even approaches the death of a loved one.
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Do Any Atheists Feel This Way?
by Big Dog inthe atheists have done a pretty good job on me, i am just about to cast my lot in with them after all the reading and debating on the issue.
they just seem to have all the answers and appear to hold the intellectual high ground, they do a good job of making one feel like a complete idiot for believing in a god, much less the christian version.
so now that i am almost free of this delusional, magical thinking, religious burden of foolishly believing in a god and that there is anymore to life than what is right here how do i feel?
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BigDog, so why the long face?
Honestly? Because I went to the cemetary today and stood looking at my father's grave in the cold rain. He's been gone about 14 months, died in my house of an inoperable brain tumor. I sat and held his hand for the last 36 hours of his life as his body struggled to survive. It was the saddest more horriffic thing I have ever seen, the way we cling to life so desperately, the body struggles vailiantly to survive, to repair itself, but in the end it loses, it always loses, and I saw something in his eyes I had never ever seen before, fear. He was a combat vet, and he used to love to say, no atheists in the foxhole, I wonder if I do fully accept disbelief, if when my time comes I'll stick to it.
I miss him, I used to take comfort from hoping he was in a better place and that maybe he was sort of watching over me, but now I am beginning to think that is all bunk, when he closed his eyes that last time and drew his last breath, that was it, nothing, no more. Everything he knew, every memory he had gone when the neurons stopped firing. I was thinking of my children, they are going to watch me go someday and the whole cycle of it, I watch them come into being and they watch me exit just brought me down.
So that's where all of this is coming from, if there isn't anything else, if he is nothing but dust I'm saddened by that. Its fairly easy for me at a healthy 41 to pump myself up and think yes, life is good, I've got lots of years hopefully, and I try to enjoy every mintue, but I only have so many minutes, and, well, they just aren't enough.
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Do Any Atheists Feel This Way?
by Big Dog inthe atheists have done a pretty good job on me, i am just about to cast my lot in with them after all the reading and debating on the issue.
they just seem to have all the answers and appear to hold the intellectual high ground, they do a good job of making one feel like a complete idiot for believing in a god, much less the christian version.
so now that i am almost free of this delusional, magical thinking, religious burden of foolishly believing in a god and that there is anymore to life than what is right here how do i feel?
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Sorry Monkey goddess, my face was red as a baboon's ass trying to get the dang thing to post.